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-federal legislation sharply oun the rise during the obama -- sharply on the rise during the obama administration. mr. millhiser, get us started what kind of laws? guest: you have to go back to the early terrorist of the united states to understand what we are talking about so once upon a time we were 13 colonies and when we won the revolutionary war these were really 13 different countries. the supreme court was very aggressive about 100 years ago. there was a question of whether some things like social security would be constitutional. now you are seeing some states who are saying they want to go back on that deal when they made when they became a union. the states should be allowed to overrule federal laws they don't like. that's a serious problem. james madison at one point warned if we allow this it could bring an end to the union because if federal law isn't supreme and the constitution says it is the supreme law of the land, we aren't a union in meaningful sense. host: what laws are we talking about? guest: across a whole host of policy areas, whether it be health care, resistance to obamacare
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